ITP Selfishness?

Businesses being what they are (businesses geared towards making money), it’s hard to fault the decision of the Flying Biscuit owners to sell to Raving Brands. And as much as everybody may not like what we think is going to come, we do have to ask if we are being selfish with our ITP FB love.

Let’s assume we ITPers are being selfish at the expense of those OTPers (personally, I’m very okay with this). Here’s my question – what other sorts of ITP institutions would we want to keep on the DL, away from those franchising forces that may let OTPers partake without the suffering drive?

I have a few that I can think of – Manuel’s, Woody’s Cheesesteaks. I would like to say Taco Mac, but I lost that battle a long time ago (and, really, the Taco Mac’s that exist outside of VaHi are all-together very different than the original).

So what do you think? And the opposite – OTPers, which ITP places would you like to see franchised out to your neck of the woods?

9 Comments so far

  1. james (unregistered) on May 20th, 2006 @ 2:55 pm

    if they ever open a thums up cafe in alpharetta i am going to move to new zealand.

  2. Smoove D (unregistered) on May 20th, 2006 @ 8:44 pm

    Fuck OTP. Those boring cube dwelling drones got what they deserve – homogeneity from subdivision to shining subdivision.

  3. trudat (unregistered) on May 21st, 2006 @ 7:10 pm

    Fuck OTP, indeed.

  4. Eric (unregistered) on May 22nd, 2006 @ 10:54 am

    I don’t want to start a flame war, but ITPer’s living in yet another Novare Hi-rise condo are getting the same level of homogenity.

    However, speaking as an OTPer, I don’t want any more franchising of unique restaurant concepts. There are places everywhere that spawn original independantly owned businesses organically that are more interesting than cookie-cutter establishments. For example: I work in Carrollton and I’d rather eat at Burrito Jones than a Moe’s anyday.

    I’d rather come into town and eat at the original Flying Bisquit than have a knock-off in my hometown.

    Also, some of these places have tried to re-create the magic in other locales. Case in point, Manuels. They used to have a second location on Memorial Drive in Stone Mountain. It was never even close. The Stone Mountain location was just another bar in a strip mall. The original at North and Highland is an institution and should not be tampered with.

    I got to tell you though, some of you ITPer’s have a really snooty attitude. Some of us live OTP for very legitimate reasons, and we’re not cube dwelling drones. :-)

  5. jonathan peterson (unregistered) on May 22nd, 2006 @ 2:51 pm

    Eric is right. Cloning something isn’t inherently evil, though strip malls and drive-thrus clearly ARE. While I’d rather eat at a Mellow Mushroom out in east jesus than a Pizza Hut or Dominos, I’d even more prefer to try a single-location pizza place that someone living out there says is good (assuming they know something about decent pizza).

    Atlanta is finally getting big enough that there are places OTP that are worth the trip for us ITP snobs. That’s a GOOD thing.

  6. Smoove D (unregistered) on May 22nd, 2006 @ 11:57 pm

    @Eric – Good point. I don’t like vertical trailer parks full of yuppies any more than I like the suburbs. Unfortunately, Novare, Post, and Lane Company are steadily turning ITP into OTP and in another five years I will have to move to Canada or something.

  7. Nikki (unregistered) on May 23rd, 2006 @ 10:59 am

    Isn’t the OTP/ITP thing a hipster obession of last year? What a ridiculously stupid dick-measuring contest. I’ll drive my eight miles to work any day — the only thing I’d get from living ITP would be the gift of spending more on gasoline than I already do.

  8. Lori (unregistered) on May 24th, 2006 @ 10:40 am

    You know, Fellini’s and La Fonda are chains, but they don’t have that sterile freakish quality about them. If anything, it’s how you develop the brand.

  9. Some other Mike (unregistered) on May 24th, 2006 @ 7:44 pm


    RE: Taco Mac: last I checked, Taco Mac has been franchised for a while (Summit’s and Tavern o/t River used to be Taco Macs). Actually, I don’t know if Taco Mac went entirely in-house, but the chain largely sucks now.

    RE: Raving Brands: I’m trying to decide which analogy is closer: (a) The Borg Collective, (b) The Zerg Swarm, (c) The Flood, or (d) The Living Dead. They have Mama Fu’s, Planet Smoothie, Moe’s, and a few other astroturf chains that were spawned from willing or unwilling hosts, so they can bankroll a strip mall’s occupancy, and look like different establishments. And now, Flying Biscuit. I will miss it.

    RE: ITP-ers being selfish: Back home, we called that “having your head up your ass”. It applies here, and it’s reinforced by your choice of Taco Mac as an example. It’s quite similar to the Gladiators’ management asking that nobody shout “Knights!” during the national anthem — denying Atlanta’s sports heritage for the sake of maintaining a lie.

    RE: Franchising “OTP”: It doesn’t matter whether expansion is franchised or not, if doing so dilutes quality.

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